Where did evil come from? Definitions and misc.

Why did you break that egg?  You caused damage to it.  Why did you break it?

Answer:  To make an omelet.

There is an answer to where evil came from and why did God do it.
Answer: Evil came about by God effectually permitting Satan, Eve then Adam to have a confused mind due to context and God withdrawing the efficacious grace needed to continue Love God. ( the higher principle of love in the soul because to God)  Then Satan, Adam and Eve would have their mind in a natural evil state, but the will still good, therefore the good will but confused mind is going to choose the apparent good and not the real good and pleasing to God thing to do.)

Answer: God did it to make an omelet.  God did it for His Glory.


Why do people still have this question of where did evil come from?

1. Lack of knowledge of God
2. Short sightedness,  they don't see how the omelet is being made (God getting glory).
3. Nature of the principle of the soul are not understood.  Mainly the higher principle of Love to God and the lower proper principle of love to self.
4. If you get so far as to understand 1,2, and 3 then it may even be harder to understand that God can justly withdrawal the grace or good principle of Love to God, leaving man with love to self.
5. Then you have to understand how a good will chooses evil.  Then you know where it came from and how it happened.

Now you may not see how God gets glory from effectually permitting sin, but you know the bible says it.  Rom. 11:36



"knowledge puffs up, but love edifies"  Did the soon rise to authority give satan who was the craftiest an inflated view of his own knowledge of God and himself?  (It's a warning, to the new convert, no soon elevation to authority.)   Now Lucifer thinks he knows better.  Has a better plan that to serve humans.   Now with an inflated view of his abilities particularly his knowledge, what he knows.  With that view his mind is twisted, (untrue or non true  if I were to pick a word), confused or even tricked by providence.
Now Lucifer has a "good will" and a twisted mind, therefore the will chooses what it thinks to be the good thing to choose, which when the mind is conceited in it's own knowledge, then the will chooses what it thinks is good, it chooses the apparent good.  Apparent meaning because it could not choose the real good.  It CANNOT choose the real true good in this context.  What would naturally occur in the heart of anyone who had a good will and twisted mind?  Sin.  God effectually permitted the sin.   And effectually caused the mind to get twisted (given that God can effectually cause a natural evil and not be doing anything contrary to His nature)



Look at what soon elevation happened to Satan.  This WILL happen to you, in this context.  Paul seems to argue the certainty and surety of the fall.  and or conceitedness to happen in that context.


Knowledge of Spiritual things with craft and authority and now quick elevation.  It seems as though Lucifer and other angels were created first.  Then humans on the 6th day.  So angels would have been around at least 6 days.  Lucifer then having only 6 days of rule over the angels then wam, here comes the command to serve these lesser beings!  Lucifer gets conceited in knowledge, basically he believes he has a better plan to ascend to the most high.  Someone elevated so soon will not have the maturity to handle lowering themselves any lower than what they think.  And to Lucifer to lower himself to serve a lesser being was not in his mind.  Someone elevated to soon and having more telling to do than doing from the Father breads Spiritual Pride in the context of now being told to serve a lesser being.   You see it is in serving a lesser being that the temptation is great.

1 tim 3:6   Says  the pastor will get conceited.   So we know Lucifer got conceited.
How did this conceit happen to be in him?
1 tim 3:6  gives us the context   soon elevation to being a messenger of God.  Same context.  Same sin.  and being told to serve.
Like the pastor has a soon elevation in authority in preaching but has to humble himself to serve the flock.  So Satan was the same soon elevation in being a messenger of God

So in the context of soon elevation to being the craftiest messenger of God conceit worked it's way into the mind of Lucifer.  So in the context of soon elevation to being the craftiest messenger of God Lucifer's knowledge got tweaked.  So in the context of soon elevation to authority and being the craftiest messenger of God causes that being to get conceited.  Wether that being be an angel or pastor.  Why can i say this so confidently?  Because Paul says it will happen to the pastor just as it happened to Lucifer.


A sense or discovery of God's greatness (majesty)  Rev. 1:13ff )  without an equal sense of His Loveliness will not work humility.

Satan could not of had the best complete view possible of God's loveliness  because it's all of God that makes Him lovely.  God's wrath and awful majesty were little if not at all revealed to Lucifer.

Lucifer's view of how much God is above him was skewed. (in loveliness and or wisdom, authority etc ?)


Can you see God being totally, completely Glorified by all this?  If Yes, then nothing else matter's.  If you see at the end of it all and the end of the day that God is Glorified than no amount of earthly pain is to much.  "He doesn't treat us as our sins deserve."


Conceited about what?   His own light, humility, power, authority, loveliness, craftiness, highest in honor and dignity, brightest of the stars?  to be highly conceited of his own spiritual knowledge is to be wise in his own eyes.   What to do and how to deal with spiritual issues

Lucifer believed that he had just grounds for the view he had of himself and therefore not too high. "I will ascend.. Able to ascend"  Is this the lie that he believed?

There was no law for lucifer to disobey only to not follow his wisdom guided by love.  Would he fail to love.  Would the bright morning star fail to shine?
Thinking Lucifer could ascend to the most high because of the inflated view he had of himself.
"I could ascend to the most high because I'm the Craftiest"

What seems to be inherent in Conciet of ones own knowledge wether it be knowledge of God or man or self or self powers natural and or moral.   What seems to also be inherent in conceit is a belief that the soul can ascend. Thinks it has the ability to ascend.  All in the mind still.   the will has not chosen yet.  The mind has to be tricked into not only believing it has a better plan but also the ability to carry it out.   Though they don't have the ability to overthrow God they think they do.

The thinking has to be there first then the choosing.   The thinking that it can ascend to the most high.  And not only can as in ability but believes it should ascend because Lucifers knowledge is better than God's anyway according to his sinful thinking.  As soon as Lucifers likes and believes this plan that is better than God's then Lucifer is now Satan.

Lucifer was his firstborn, and was the firstborn of every creature. But when it was revealed to him, that as high and as glorious as he was, that he must be a ministering spirit to the race of mankind that he had seen newly created, that appeared so feeble, mean and despicable, so vastly inferior not only to him, the prince of the angels and head of the universe, but also to the inferior angels, and that he must be subject to one of that race that should hereafter be born, he could not bear it. This occasioned his fall, and now he with the other angels he drew away with him are fallen.


Questions?

Was lucifer choosing to act based on what he believed to be good in the short run?

Or was  he a pragmatist that chose because he thinks it works or is best?